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Should College Students Be Allowed to Text in Class?

Lafayette professor says texting and surfing the Internet are distracting for students and teachers. What do you think?

 

Just as every generation redefines what is obscene – Elvis’ gyrating hips seem so tame now - so too do we re-evaluate etiquette. That’s why Miss Manners will never lack for work. 

I think it’s rude when my kids are with one friend and texting another, but the teens themselves don’t seem to be offended. My “Love the one you’re with” lecture often falls on deaf ears. 

So I suspect there will be a generational divide on this question: Should laptops and cell phones be allowed in college classrooms? 

Josh Miller, a Lafayette College government professor, asked his colleagues that question after becoming frustrated with students who would text on their phones or surf the Internet on laptops during class. 

Miller, who made it clear to me that he was speaking for himself and not the college, said it’s distracting and rude. He said he’s tried humor and making comments such as “I fear someone’s texting in here” so as not to make it personal. “That used to stop things for a while,” he wrote. “What's funny is that it doesn't work anymore. They just keep texting.” 

It’s not just his classes. “I've been to two presentations this week and several kids around me were texting through the whole thing,” he said. “Tonight, during a panel presentation, one guy down the row from me used his computer for Facebook while texting on his phone. The guy next to him was playing solitaire on his computer. But then two kids nearby seemed to be using their computers to take notes.” 

That last observation is why he hesitated to put a stop to all use of laptops in class – some people employ them for legitimate purposes.  

Asked if texting is just this generation’s equivalent of doodling, Miller said he didn’t think so. You can doodle on paper and still be listening to a class discussion or lecture, but texting pulls away your focus. In that way it hinders discussions in class. 

Other professors have told me that college students have developed more of a consumer mentality than they had back in the day. One college instructor told me that some of her students felt they shouldn’t have to come to class if they didn’t want to since they - or their parents - are paying for it.  

Miller said some of the professors who responded to his query have a clear policy they put on their syllabus that there will be no cell phones or computers in use during class. He decided a couple of weeks ago to bar the use of electronics in class unless a student got special permission from the college dean. 

I asked him early this week how his new ban is working. So far, pretty well.  

“Texting is rude and distracting to the texter, professor and students,” he told me. “It will never stop completely in the classroom, just as it won't in lectures, homes, cars and movie theaters. But you can fight the good fight.” 

So what do you think? Should cell phones and laptops be allowed in college classrooms? Take our poll posted below and add your comments.

  • Should electronics be banned in college classes?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes. Texting and Internet surfing distract students from their classwork.
        87 (63%)
    • No. They're part of modern life and some students use a laptop to take notes.
        33 (24%)
    • Not sure. Might depend on the class, professor and students.
        16 (11%)
    Total votes: 136
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Lafayette Collge, Laptops, Texting, and texting in class

PJ Lum

8:05 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011

I am 33 and mom of 3 children, 12, 9 and 2. My 12 yr old son has a cell phone and NEVER carries it with him and drives me nuts. I live on my phone but I am on the fence with this topic. I am a young mom but I was raised and raise my kids old school. I think texting while someone else is talking is rude. I make my son remove his hat whenever we walk into a building still. My point is basic common sense in human decency towards others is severely lacking now a days. And that very well may be because the times they are a changing! We live in a society who heavily depends on electronics, reading books on hand helds. The land where spellcheck teaches kids to spell instead of a good dictionary. But can you tell someone to not play a game on a laptop when they are paying to be there? Yes it's rude and it distracts the other people sitting around them too. Unfortunately this is not going to get easier..at this point professors should be thankful they still have a job before they are taken over by classes online...on a laptop.

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Beth

11:56 am on Thursday, November 24, 2011

PJ, You have some great points. We too are trying to bring our children up with "traditional" values. If you want to talk to someone, call them. I think kids these days need a lesson in school regarding respect and courtesy toward others. I also think that we need to be the positive examples for this. If we are texting and on our phones/computers all day, why wouldn't they be doing the same? I just think it's a shame that we aren't able to enjoy, or at least be engaged, in the moment that is right in front of us instead of what's on the other end of the phone or facebook, or whatever other "cyber" toy we have at our fingertips. And, so, for that reason, I don't agree with students being allowed to use devices for reasons other than academic. Sure the professors should be thankful for a job, but it goes both ways-kids should thankful for an education too. I fear for where our society is headed with all of these things-instant gratification is the norm now and it's sad.

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Salisbury Resident

12:12 pm on Thursday, November 24, 2011

The majority of college students are over 18. Laws prevent the access of their grades and college activities by parents, or people other than the student. Because of this very same process, I do not believe we have the opportunity to debate this topic. The authority of what is conducted in and during the class is the responsibility of the instructor/professor. This thread will turn into wasted breath.

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George

3:44 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011

then why did you waste your time commenting?

Ephraim Fithian

9:27 am on Saturday, November 26, 2011

Neither texting, nor surfing, nor daydreaming are appropriate in a classroom situation. If the professor is talking at the students, they can choose to listen or not. If the professor is involving the students in an activity, there is no time for texting, surfing, or daydreaming. Perhaps the problem is with the professor, not the student. I am a retired professor.

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George

3:52 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011

Regardless of the technology present, there are a few basic facts. One, if a student texting, then they are not concentrating on the class. I don't care if they are geniuses that can multi-task; if they do this they are showing that they still have not "learned to learn". Two, they are being discrespectful to the speaker. Sadly, society as a whole has become more disrespectful, ironically due to the dehumanizing effects of the technology being used to write these comments. Finally, if the student is not paying attention, they are wasting the money being used to pay for the class, be it the parent's money, a scolarship fund, or their own student loan money. The problem with the issue is that I am making these observations after having the life experience of paying for my own education, but not really acknowledging that fact at the time i was fooling around in class. All of us may say what we want, but at their age, most (American) college students do not take their classes as seriously as they should, and a surprising amount should probably not even be there.

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The Oracle of Truth

4:47 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011

Of course they should. Then they can get text message updates whenever i post some more of the local dirt I have uncovered.

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Stew

9:08 pm on Saturday, November 26, 2011

Again the above posting is not by Stew!

Tara Zrinski

4:48 pm on Sunday, November 27, 2011

I do not let my students take their cell phones out in class. They need to put them away. This way they are not distracted and neither is anyone else around them who is watching them text. I think it is not only distracting but disrespectful. When students use laptops to take notes, I also monitor whether they are gaming, emailing or posting on a social network. So, I think the message gets to Professor and whether or not students have the right to make their own decisions at 18, a Professor's responsibility is to manage the classroom.

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Missy Moyer-Schneck

9:00 am on Monday, November 28, 2011

These college classes, if I'm not mistaken, are being paid for by the student...right? If that's correct, they can waste their money all they want texting in class....as long as it isn't my dime

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Tara Zrinski

9:18 am on Monday, November 28, 2011

As an adjunct at NCC, I see that prevailing mind-set a great deal but, I think it is a pretty selfish one. Sure they might waste their money but, they are also wasting the money of those students that they disrupt and distract with the texting. Sitting in a classroom and hearing the "beep" every time a student gets a reply on the text and seeing them hurry to pound away at the keys is distracting.

Also, it isn't just texting anymore. Kids have smart phones, iphones, android phones that have the capability to download any sort of information. Sometimes it is useful in class but, most of the time, they are surfing, facebooking or emailing and not paying attention. Then, as the professor, they ask me "did I miss something?" or "I don't understand," and then the class is set back because they weren't paying attention. I never let cell phones out during a test or quiz either because cyber cheating is a real problem.

I think it is important for young adults to know that even though they are paying for their education it is still a privilege that not everyone can afford. Many times, the student is on scholarship or financial aid. They should appreciate it and get as much as they can out of it. The skills and discipline they learn in the classroom is training for their future.

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Missy Moyer-Schneck

11:39 am on Monday, November 28, 2011

Yes, your absolutely right, they SHOULD appreciate it and use it to the best of their ability, but it's very obvious they don't...and really...are we going to now be nanny's to the college students as well?

Mary Anne Looby

9:58 am on Monday, November 28, 2011

Great response Tara! If I were a teacher or professor I would show them the door. If you are there to learn, you do not need your phone. Grow up people. Do you think your boss is going to let you check all your texts and messages on his dime?

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Ephraim Fithian

11:00 am on Monday, November 28, 2011

As a professor, it is difficult to keep track of what the students are doing. From the front of the class, they all look alike. From the back, it is quite a different view. I once taught classes where every student was seated at a Mac, being instructed on how to perform certain techniques. There was a screen in the front of the room demonstrating the techniques, while I commented. I could see all of the activity of the students. If one had a problem, I would go to that student individually and give personal assistance. The problem is that you can't see their eyes, but I would notice any surfing or texting on their Macs or other devices.

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Missy Moyer-Schneck

11:45 am on Monday, November 28, 2011

I guess my point of view is this....We say now when our kids are in 1st through 12th that they shouldn't have cell phones on them in class, we know that is not the case, kids are on their phones in school and I'm not talking college. I hear about it from my own kids, sure, the schools are trying their best to stop this and when they do find someone with a phone in use, I think they take it away and probably until the end of the school year, and I have no problem with that. My son has a cell phone on him and he knows, it's for after he gets off that bus, I want to make sure he has that on him if he needs it on his way home, if he forgets his key, if the lock sticks etc.....(it's an old house)....BUT, if he pulls it out in school and it gets taken away, too darn bad, you just lost your phone till the end of the year, now you better make sure you have your key when you leave in the morning cause if not, your sitting on the porch till I get home. When it comes to a college student, they are old enough to make those decisions, if they know a professor doesn't want a cell phone on in class it's their decision to keep it off or use it, but, I certainly don't think we need to be parenting them like we do when our kids are in the primary grades. These kids in college are there to further their education, it's their choice and it's not a requirement....it's their loss if they don't pay attention and hopefully their classmates have the backbone to tell them what a waste it is.

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