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Lehigh Valley Tea Party Calls for Government Cuts

The Lehigh Valley has issued a statement on the so-called 'fiscal cliff' government crisis

 

In response to the current 2013 Government Spending Crisis (deceptively called the “fiscal cliff”), the Lehigh Valley Tea Party (LVTP) asks our Representatives and Senators, as a first step toward a solution to this crisis, to vote for legislation cutting the size and power of government.

The federal government cuts should start with eliminating the wasteful cost of departments performing improper functions of government at the federal level. The first federal departments to be abolished with the control of these functions picked up by the states are: Education, Energy, Health & Human Services, Commerce, and the Environmental Protection Agency.  These department eliminations will help to eradicate costly waste in addition to the abuse of power by government operatives and regulators.

Further, the LVTP asks our Representatives and Senators to work on legislation dissolving the Federal Reserve System and returning the banking function to its rightful place in the private sector. The Federal Reserve has failed to maintain a sound currency which should have been its primary function.

The LVTP asks our Representatives and Senators to work on legislation that replaces “baseline budgeting” by the federal government with “zero-based budgeting” to terminate the perpetual and unjustified growth of Big Government.

The LVTP asks our Representatives and Senators to fight against and vote against any future attempt to raise the debt ceiling, and especially to fight against any unconstitutional attempt by President Obama to seize Congress’s rightful power to control the debt ceiling and, thus, government spending.

The LVTP judges that these dramatic cuts to government size and power and reductions in government interference in the economy are the only morally, politically, and economically justifiable method for delaying the effects coming from massive and unjustifiable government spending. We hope that these measures will delay the American people having to suffer the collapse of the dollar by inflation or the enslavement of future generations by massive government borrowing. The destructive inflation would be caused by the Federal Reserve System printing outrageous amounts of money (i.e., Quantitative Easing, QE1 & QE2) in order to support unjustifiable government spending. The destructive borrowing would be the result of incurring massive debt to foreign nations that are hostile to Individual Rights in order to support unjustifiable government spending.

-- Executive Board of the Lehigh Valley Tea Party

Related Topics: Lehigh Valley Tea Party, Tea Party, and fiscal cliff

for real

8:15 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Yes reduce government spending. Eliminate the EPA and Department of Education? The tea party does not represent the mainstream. The only thing you guys are doing is helping to elect Democrats. 2010 is over. As Repubplicans we need to rise up and reclaim our party from the idiot fringe.

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Patriot2

10:01 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

The Republican party needs the tea party to restore its vibrancy. Mainstream Republican leadership has now produced two of the most pathetic candidates possible in the last 2 elections in McCain and Romney. The results befitted these candidates lack of fortitude and fire in their bellies for restoring government to the people. If the Tea Party had congealed behind one candidate, we could have won the last election. Marco Rubio is our man for 2016 and we need to get behind him in a united way between now and then and rid the party of their bland middle over the hill middle of the roaders.

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John Reynard

10:40 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

I fully support reducing the size of government. But, how does passing a bunch of things on to the states do that? It is simply passing the buck down to an already overburdened state government. We should assess what our priorities as a nation are cut or eliminate the things which aren't and move forward with the same federal system we've had for the past 200 years rather than moving back to an arrangement similar to the articles of confederation where the states are supreme as the Tea Party proposes.

As for the Federal Reserve, you do know that technically it is a private corporation right? I'm more concerned about this private corporation's heavy influence on monetary policy than I am about the government's power the other direction. Governments always have had the ability to create fiat money and have to use that responsibly to avoid economic problems. The last two administrations have done a poor job of that to be sure. That is what needs to be corrected.

As for McCain and Romney being lame candidates, the Republican party has multiple wings. In large part both of these men were lame because they couldn't reconcile the two main wings of the Republican Party without sounding lame. I'm not sure how Marco Rubio will do that better in 2016 or why he's the darling of the Tea Party other than he's hispanic.

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Wayne Schissler

6:42 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Is it "passing a bunch of things on to the state" or is it preventing duplication of services and regulations? The federal departments of education, environment, & energy are all recent creations. Has education improved one iota since the creation of the Fed Dept of Ed? Please realize we put a man on the moon without it. Does a federal environmental department have PA's best interests at heart. Does our hard earned tax money somehow increase in value by sending it to DC instead of Harrisburg? Has the department of energy done anything to make us energy independent (it's original goal from +30 ago)? Are we to poor in spirit to manage our own affairs? Really? Are these things that only the feds can do, even if it takes borrowing 40 cents of every dollar spent? Sure, we've "always" done it this way... right.

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Wade B

11:02 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Hey Wayne Schissler, why dont you run for elected office? You seem to have many opinions but I cant find you listed as a candidate for anything anywhere... get off the bench and get into the game tough guy

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Wayne Schissler

10:00 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Hey Wade,

Yes, I am full of.... opinions. Which is a bit better than what you appear to be full of, seeing how you respond with taunts and name-calling instead of ideas of you're own. Of course, having nothing to add is an opinion in itself - a government that picks the winners and losers (mostly losers) with it's regulations, subsidies, & loan guarantees - guess you love that status quo. And no, I will not run for office on the recommendation of people who will never vote for me.

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John Reynard

3:01 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

@Wayne -- We've been a federal system for more than two hundred years now. Since 1837 we've had an annual surplus 16 times in almost two-hundred years. During WWII we borrowed at a higher rate than we are now and left the war with a worse Debt/GDP ratio than we have currently. Since we've spiked military spending in the last decade in a way which only significant wars in the past have done I point this out. We need to keep an eye on the long-term goal of course which is to bring annual deficits back to a sustainable level and I fully agree that 40% borrowing to cover our spending will eventually be paid for in higher interest rates on government bonds and inflation. But, at the moment we are borrowing at ALL TIME lows on 10 and 30 year bonds. The free market isn't as pessimistic about our long-term prospects as you are. Why do you hate the free market so much?

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Wayne Schissler

10:26 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

John,
Wars end. It's sensible to borrow to fund something that's going to end. That has been the past model that you are making reference to. What we have now is totally different from the past, deficit spending on entitlement programs and departments that not only do not end, but are constantly growing.
Since 2010, Social Security has been running a permanent cash-flow deficit - that is not ending. This means SS payroll taxes collected are not enough to cover the benefits paid to retirees. That falls under the borrowing "40 cents on the dollar" dilemma. Medicare is in similar dire straits. Every year the trustee report literally begs for lawmakers to take action, and every year it's a political hot potato.
Yes, we've been a federal system for over 200 years - no one is denying that or suggesting we go back to the Articles of Confederation. Like I said, much of what was proposed to go back to the states was with the states 30-40 years ago. America became a great nation without these departments.

Tony

10:42 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

and this is where Ron Paul supporters will never vote or agree with the tea party. The cuts are cuts to American services. That is the first thing the LVTP is suggesting? What about cutting the rebuilding of OTHER countries FIRST. Then after ALL of that is cut, then we can talk about cutting here. But without that as a leading issue and the dismantling of the Fed, those type of republicans will continue to lose elections. For any true conservative to get behind Romney, that is a joke. Mitt was no conservative at all. Big time socialist spender. Should have got behind Paul or Johnson.

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Tony

11:20 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

chris christie is also a socialist. he couldn't wait to take advantage of the free federal funds for sandy hurricane. that is socialism. taking taxes from other to pay others. christie also has done nothing to reduce property taxes that he ran on. he hasn't cut any programs except for going against unions. he loves spending tax dollars. i.e. helicopter trip on tax payer funds, to his kids baseball game. Rubio is also socialist as well. He believes in social programs. Reagan was also a big spender and socialist. To get away from all this...Ron Paul or Gary Johnson. no soclialists there.

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Tony

11:45 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

no it isn't. people want less government and want it left up to the states. the states should fend for themselves. just like the tea party movement in texas to remove its self. the definition of socialism is pretty clear: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

christie is a socialist, reagan was one too. those are the facts.

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John Reynard

1:20 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

If Reagan was a socialist you're breaking the meaning down so far that most Americans probably support Socialism. Please leave words with socially accepted meanings rather than making our veterans socialists for collecting their veterans benefits and pensions by your definition. You'll make socialism acceptable before you break the left doing that.

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Tony

2:23 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

this is exactly what obama is pushing and what mitt was pushing....wealth redistribution....= socialism....reagan was a socialist if obama is one as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfIzxc_k4E

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Wade B

10:59 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Reagan raised taxes 7 out of 8 years in office

Tony

11:47 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExiQgJ7U6RQ

youtube can be great to see how the words just flow from their own mouths

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Frank

1:38 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

The Tea Party is SO out of touch with reality. Thats why their numbers are dwindling. Hopefully we will rid ourselves of the balance these know-nothings in 2014.

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Greg from Bethlehem

12:13 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Frank, how about speaking words of substance, rather then putting down your fellow Americans for standing up for what they believe in.

Nazaretti

3:30 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Jolly entertainment, watching these wing nuts crush the Republican Party to small pieces.

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Wade B

10:58 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Tea Party should rename themselves the Tea Bagging Fags

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Nazaretti

9:42 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012

Your taxes will go up to pay off our wars in the Middle East, which were financed on credit.

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John Reynard

2:55 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

The national debt has not doubled yet in Obama's administration. It probably will before his eight years in office are over. A good part of the rise in the annual deficit was due to putting the Iraq and Afghan wars in the budget rather than using Bush's technique of keeping it off the books. As for entitlement spending rising, it always does in a recession. We should make sure we're getting value in return for that spending of course which I don't know that we are in all cases. But, to put all social programs in the same boat is ignoring the ones which have high return rates over time.

Amend Wun

4:59 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

@Joe- and you want to give tax breaks to the so called job creators knowing that they will most likely use the logic you provided to invest off shore? How is that prudent? How is wealth tricking up not also wealth distribution and equally un American? and shouldn't we, considering the amount of wealth polarization occurring, be seeing unprecedented job creation? I mean, these alleged job-creators have more wealth than ever, yet there doesn't seem to be any return on that "investment" on their part. Where are all these jobs then?

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Maynard G Krebs

6:36 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

The problem with the so-called job creators is that they don't create any jobs. Demand creates jobs, and there's no demand because the middle class has been eviscerated by the "job creators." As to giving more power to the states, no thanks, not with that bunch of jackasses in Harrisburg, especially Corbett. He's more crooked than Rendell.

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Amend Wun

8:26 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012

@Joe- no, I'm grasping what you're saying about global markets and the affects of costs of labor. What I'm saying is that there is no reason to reward that sort of preditorial capitalism, with tax cuts or incentives of any sort, when it doesn't benefit our domestic economy beyond access to cheap good. Like I said, if putting more money in the hands of the affluent actually created jobs, we should be seeing tons of jobs because the affluent have more wealth than ever. It a failed premise because those with the wealth are focused on ROI for themselves, not the country of the general populous. I do agree with your POV on Walmart, and don't shop there either. It's hard to blame the workers when few options now remain. They could strike if they were allowed to unionize, but that's a dirty word these days. I also agree with Maynard, in that it's the affluent, these so called job creators, who fleeced the country, and in doing so, the middle class as well. Demand creates jobs. The one thing that we seem to over look is how the consumer, as a general premise, has been a willful participant in their own demise.

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John Reynard

9:11 am on Friday, December 28, 2012

Mr. Sommers is advocating more supply-side economics. We've had it for a generation and seen the largest decline in median purchasing power and wealth in US history. I think we can safely say that supply-side economics aren't helping most Americans anymore. The Democratic response has been ineffective as well however as it doesn't foster long-term job creation here in the USA either. We need to find a way to tie tax breaks to actual new job creation here in the USA. Giving tax breaks to create jobs overseas only impoverishes us all and makes people have less and less work choices and thus less control over their lives. The Republican plan is an abject failure. Lets find a way to move on from it and bring jobs back to the USA without having to drive our own workers down to the level of Chinese or Indian ones (or worse Burmese -- even China is losing jobs to places worse off now).

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John Reynard

9:17 am on Friday, December 28, 2012

And Joe, I know how investments work because I work in the field. Median ROI at companies which have actively traded ticker symbols has risen from 9.7% in the 1980s to 13.4% now. In order to get less than a 4% increase in "efficiency" we've given up more than 15M manufacturing jobs, most of it encouraged by US tax policy passed between 1981 and 1985. None of this was called wealth redistribution because "its just what the marketplace caused to happen". But, without changes in tax policy many of these jobs would not have been lost so that is BS. I'm not saying there is an easy solution. But, we need to start solving and the first key is to tie any tax breaks the wealthy would like to continue to enjoy to actual job creation here in the USA. What is so terrible about that?

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WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.

6:49 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

It appears that the extreme right wing members of the U.S. House of Representatives are punishing us for re-electing Obama.

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Wayne Schissler

10:37 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

Not sure what you mean Wilfredo. This whole fiasco was properly legislated and passed by the congress & senate, and signed by the president back in 2011. Are you telling me that the fools (ALL of them) that passed it then are somehow off the hook if it actually comes to pass?

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WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.

6:57 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013

Just a thought, Wayne...We have seen these guys turned their backs on their leader Speaker Boehner embarrassing him no end over his proposal for what reason (Grover Norquest's pledge signing?)...Make it difficult for all in 2012-2013.

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Wayne Schissler

9:26 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013

Well, the grand deal of the moment is basically kicking any talk about spending cuts to a March deadline, meanwhile taxes go up. According to the Congressional Budget Office, if the sequestration (the so-called "fiscal cliff") stays in place, discretionary spending would grow from $1.047 to $1.147 trillion. That's right, a cut in growth, not a real cut. And federal workers and congress all get a raise.
So the glassy green-eyed envy of the "soak the rich crowd" gets temporarily sated with a tax which barely scratches the total debt while favored businesses continue to pay nothing and federal departments that have demonstrated their inability to preform continue to grow.
Welcome to the New Year, same as the old year...

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