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Forget Polls, Romney Backers Say, 'He'll Win'

Many Republicans dismiss the large lead some polls say the president has going into the first debate.

 

Add polling data to the growing list of things Republicans and Democrats don’t see eye to eye on.

With Barack Obama, by the reckoning of most polls, surging ahead of challenger Mitt Romney in recent weeks, many prominent Republicans have begun questioning the methodology, and the motives, of the pollsters. The skepticism has trickled down to the local level.

At Romney’s Sept. 28 rally at Valley Forge Military Academy—a state where he faces, according to election forecaster Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com, an 8.6 point deficit and has just a three percent chance of winning—each of the attendees Patch spoke with expressed the view that recent polling data isn't an accurate reflection of the state of the race.

Poll Dance

Sharon Kanze is among the dubious. The problem, to her mind, is this: it’s a broadly accepted political truism that voters are more likely to support candidates who they perceive as doing well. So left-leaning pollsters, aided by members of the media with sympathetic views, have gamed the system to give the president a reelection nudge.

“That’s why I think they’re being manipulated in that direction,” the Romney supporter explained from her spot in line outside the academy. “The press is just so pro-Obama.”

Polly Beckham, a Romney volunteer out of Ambler, doesn’t have quite as fully-formed views as Kanze’s about the hows and whys of the polling problem, but she shares her sense that there’s a growing disconnect between how the race is being reported and the actual facts on the ground.

“I work in the Conshohocken Ryan/Romney office, and I talk to people. I’ve had people on the line who have said, for instance, a Democratic leader in Aliquippa, said ‘I’m so sick of this environment, I’m voting Republican.’”

She added, “There’s a lot going on below the surface. I think we’re about even in Pennsylvania.”

Brian Peppel, the head of the Phoenixville Republican Committee and a key player in Romney’s Chester County campaign, said, polls aside, there are other important indicators that auger well for his candidate.

Because TV ads are prohibitively expensive in Pennsylvania, both campaigns have focused on the “ground game”—old-fashioned, get out the vote efforts—and in that area the Romney team, Peppel says, is well ahead of the competition.

“The voter contacts we’ve made in Chester County have surpassed the last two elections already. And we’re leading the nation in voter contacts and get out the vote efforts,” he said.

“Pennsylvania is in play, despite what people are saying.”

Bad Intentions or Just Bad Technique?

Congressman Jim Gerlach (R-6), who spoke at the rally, told Patch he thinks the polls are off, but attributed their shortcomings more to bad methodology than ideology.

“[Pollsters] are using the wrong turnout model in their polling. If you’re using the 2008 turnout models, you’re using the wrong models, because Republicans have more voter intensity right now than Democrats. That’s the opposite of what it was four years ago,” said the congressman who is, by measure of the very polls he criticized, a heavy favorite to return to Washington for his sixth term.

Gerlach also threw cold water on the notion that the impression of a lead in a campaign necessarily becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

“I’ve been in this before, it cuts both ways,” he said. “It might depress your turnout.”

Edward Kochman, a Romney supporter who has residences in King of Prussia and Florida—“Two swing states,” he noted—is similarly optimistic.

“I’m very glad that the pollsters are saying Obama has a lead,” he laughed. “I hope the Democrats will stay home hoping he doesn’t need their help again.”

Related Topics: Mitt Romney, Romney, and election 2012

Dennis meeks

4:46 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Candidates are preaching to the choir. Media is busy selling each other. Predictions of winners is computerized guess work, emphasis on guess. Want the answer, check again on nov 9th.

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Frank Cook

6:22 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Media is most busy selling us O.

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Maria

7:26 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

At this point in the campaign, the media was telling the American people that Carter would beat Reagan in a landslide. The media reports what it WANTS to be true.
Romney in a landslide, because you can't fool the people twice.

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Morgan King

2:27 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

"The legend of Reagan’s epic comeback is largely the result of anomalous Gallup polling, which even showed a Carter advantage over the final month of the campaign... In fact, Reagan held a lead from mid-September onward and had a two or three point lead heading into the debates. Private polling conducted for the Reagan and Carter campaigns showed the same thing. Reagan’s 10 point victory is a precedent for sweeping undecided voters, but it isn’t a model for a come-from-behind victory...
[W]ithout the 1980 model, there isn’t any example of a challenger coming from behind to defeat an incumbent president. The leader of mid-September polls has gone onto win the popular vote in every election since 1948, and then it was the incumbent who pulled off the comeback."

http://www.tnr.com/blog/electionate/107171/exploding-the-reagan-1980-comeback-myth#

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Eric W

10:45 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

@Mary: did "the media" during the reagan/carter election include the internet? blogs? facebook? Get with the times!

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Carl W

2:35 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Well done! However, people & Parties get pensive, and want to know, at least in general, what " the 4-1-1" is, also Parties to plan/alter strategies. Nonetheless, like your comment !!

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Justsaying

10:09 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Apparently Mitt Romney is now less popular than… George W. Bush.

That’s according to a new Bloomberg News poll, which finds that former President Bush has 46 percent favorable ratings and 49 percent unfavorable ratings among adults. By contrast, the current GOP presidential candidate Romney has a favorability rating of 43 percent and unfavorable ratings at 50 percent.

President Barack Obama came in with higher favorability than both Republicans, racking up 52 favorable ratings and 44 percent unfavorables.

Romney did, however, beat out Vice President Joe Biden‘s 42 percent net favorable ratings.

The poll’s most favorable leader found was former President Bill Clinton, who polled at 64 percent favorable and 29 percent unfavorable. Coming in second was First Lady Michelle Obama, with 63 favorable and 29 unfavorable.

Sharpie

5:07 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Nobody cares who wins. If this world doesn't start improving this second, the days will be shortened. Somebody better start doing something different other than lousy and untrustworthy. That's all that matters. Figure out it is not about winning. Only about time running out. Most of the universe could not be more throughly unimpressed w what goes on here. Start improving this planet right now. Or else. Pay attention. The universe is.

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John Q. Public

6:45 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Since the 2008 DNC nomination, almost all media have been supporting their candidate, and are having some impact. Most outlets no longer pretend to be non-partisan, but the unwary may still be fooled. The Inquirer and DN often appear to be using DNC's talking points, as there's virtually no difference between their 'news' stories, and what I see on the Democrat's sites. This total collaboration between a political party and mass media is unprecedented in a free society. Give credit where due; with style, they have successfully propped up a failed, floundering administration. There are very few outlets supporting the opposition candidate, and I find their one-sided reporting just as slanted and useless.

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Bob Guzzardi

8:38 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Not only is the news Democratically-slanted, it is shallow and superficial.
Saturday Night Live does a better job in exposing Obama Administration's failed job policies given the trillions in debt and deficit, stimulus, cash for clunkers, payroll tax cuts, etc. SNL Video posted at Left leaning Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/27/snl-election-special-president-obama-ohio-voters_n_1921357.html

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Maria

7:28 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

That's right Susan. Can they hear us now?!
The Chick-Fil-A day was also inspiring.
Designed as an attack on a privately-owned business by the liberal nosey-body LEFT, the RIGHT came roaring in.
I love America.

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Jane Frankland

1:55 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Repost: The Republican party always seems to attract those with a lesser intellect and those who dispute the facts. The conservative base primarily consists of the uneducated, white, Southern man. Rick Santorum (R) said it best: "We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." So true, litte Ricky, as long as your party continues on its path of destruction.

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Kate

12:12 am on Monday, October 1, 2012

It was a brief moment of insanity which fortunately has ended. Obama 4 more years

Michael Petersen

7:55 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

The 47 percent comment helped motivate the Democrat base like no other. If I have a broken leg, back strain, and running a 105 fever, I'll crawl to the voting both come election day, and enthusiastically pull the lever for President Obama.

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Bob Guzzardi

8:33 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

The Obama Voter -- A Vote for Obama is a Vote for Free Stuff... food, housing, medical, school AND, best of all, free cell phone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

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Maria

8:34 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Then you didn't understand what Romney was saying. He's Right.
You're allowing the drum-banging media to dictate your vote. Very sad.

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TP

8:40 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Why did it motivate the Lib Dems? Is it because it is in fact TRUE? Are you voting before or after you go pick up your disability check?

Hope you have ID. This time you'll only be able to vote for the dear leader once!

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Morgan King

2:12 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

How can you guys possible argue it's 'true' or a 'fact' that 47% of the American people won't "take personal responsibility and care for their lives" when A) you don't know them personally, and B) that number includes the 28.3% who ARE employed and simply make an amount that's taxed under the amount they have withheld from their paychecks, AND it it includes the 10.3% who are retired or living on Social Security. Did they not take care of their lives? Are people making under an arbitrary dollar amount not taking 'personal responsibility'? Or are we really just talking about the 6.9% who pay no federal taxes at all?

full context:
"Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect. And he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that's what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people—I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

figures:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/spitzer/2012/09/18/romney_s_47_percent_it_s_only_6_9_percent_and_the_tax_burden_is_proportionally_distributed_.html

Tim Again.

8:00 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Nice to see Mittens sharing his war stories with the Cadets.

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Maria

8:36 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

I can always tell a pro-Obama liberal left-wingers by the language they use. Mittens? His name is Mitt. Why are you so immature? Do you think this helps?

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TP

8:41 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Tim, tell us when and where you served?

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Tony Campisi

11:23 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Mary the liberal left doesn't even come close to the conservative right when it comes to name calling and immature language. In fact, you folks have elevated it to an art form.

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Tim Again.

6:32 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

You teabaggers are the worst. They attack Obama on everything. Do you live in a cave?

Bob Guzzardi

8:25 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

The Undecideds Will Decide. Looking at both Romney/Ryan polls and the Tom Smith/Bob Casey, we see high numbers of Undecideds. For there to be this high percentage of Undecideds this close to the election is not good news for the Incumbents. Conventional wisdom is that Undecideds break to the challenger.
Tom Smith has a proven record as a job creator with a viable plan for growing the economy and jobs. AND he has put millions of his own money into the contest. Here is part of a fund raising e-mail I received.
“My opponent has pledged to spend $20 million of his own fortune to win this fall – and he’s already funded his campaign to the tune of at least $7 million worth of false ads attacking my record.”
And a good percentage of the voters, we call them Tea Party Republicans, have learned that the media is shallow, superficial and is Democratically-slanted in their various narratives of events.

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optimist

8:48 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Tom Smith? He gained a little recently because the numbers had nowhere else to go. PA will not elect a tea party Senator especially this year. This one may be double digits:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/senate/pa/pennsylvania_senate_smith_vs_casey-3008.html

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Bob Guzzardi

11:07 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

How do you explain the Undecideds for Casey? I am Tea Party and many others see that GWBush Big Government Republicans set the stage for Obama's Big Government debt, deficit and spending. Tea Party is what Pennsylvania needs.

John Child

8:42 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

PREDICTION: The "undecideds" will break for Mittens a day before the election. A boat-load of '08 Obama voters will NOT for him this time around. "Fool Me Once" is what I hear (on the QT) from them. But they're not advertising their discontent. They are very quiet and frankly a little embarrassed that they were done-in by the Hope&Change silliness of '08. We won't know the extent of their disappointment with Team Obama until they pull the lever... and the funniest thing is they'll all tell the exit pollsters that they voted for Obama/Biden. Surprise. Surprise. Surprise.
John Child, Garrett Hill section of Rosemont Radnor Twp

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John

8:54 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

John, I just dot understand the CHANGE that the media are proporting, not from '08, but from November '10? Didn't the Republicans BLAST the Dems in that election? Has this country vastly improved since November 2010? I certainly don't think so, and the demonstration of incompetence and lack of leadership, or lack of honesty and action over these last 2 weeks, far outweighs what the man says with a microphone n his hand. "Let me be perfectly clear", I don't think the electorate is nearly as ignorant the vast majority of media thinks we are. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio. Here are some of the firm Obama supporters!

Tony Campisi

8:43 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Fox News polls show Obama winning. End of story on poll bias. Republicans need to accept the fact that they nominated a terrible candidate.

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Bob Guzzardi

11:10 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Do you think we should even hold an election? Polls are a lot less expensive and time consuming and you seem to think predict accurately as if they had a crystal ball.

Fox News is not conservative. Only a Liberal would think that. Fox News is more accurate than shallow, superficial and Democratically-slanted media but that is not a high bar.

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John

11:24 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Bob, I think you are on to something. Let's cancel the election, and run this country COMPLETELY by polls. We can have a wet-finger contest, and have our leadership go on tv daily (wait, he already does that), and make a statement, then wait and see which way the wind blows. Better yet, he can hide out in Vegas, then see what MSNBC polls tell him how to respond....yeah, that's it, that's how we should run a country! I am getting this déjà vu feeling, like my ideas already happened somewhere.....

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Kate

12:18 am on Monday, October 1, 2012

Totally right! But is has more to do with how the extremists in the republican party has thank god scared most normal people!

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Kate

12:20 am on Monday, October 1, 2012

Bob u actually think fox news is unbiased ... That is hilarious

optimist

8:44 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Sorry you guys are living a fantasy right now

Last Rasmussen poll has Obama up by 2%
Is that a leftist poll? http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Fox News most recent poll has Obama up by 5%. Is that the left hard at work?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/09/27/fox-news-poll-voters-want-change-president-to-stand-up-for-free-speech/

In almost every swing state a wide variety of polls has the President up. Big conspiracy right?

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Bob Guzzardi

11:12 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

You are right that polls are, accurately, reflecting that Obama is ahead. I don't understand given the economy, jobs and Benghazi/Caira and Iran but facts are facts.

What are the undecideds?

John

8:44 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Focussing on the point of the article, the media is no different than a stockbroker, who benefits from both up and down markets. Media benefits by the millions spent in advertising. Explaining how the same poll that changes from +3% Romney after the RNC to +8% Obama after the DNC. So what has the Romney campaign done? Stop wasting dollars in states where pollsters are claiming a 7-10% behind....it has backfired, as the polling expectation was that Romney would throw millions into PA advertising. Most money is now spent in OH, FL, VA and NV, as these are key states (according to pollsters). I think the point is all BS. I received a call yesterday polling me, and you can tell it was pro Obama based upon the questions....."do you feel BHO this, and BHO that...I especially like the one where it asked the % that BHO took on from the Bush campaign. They all end with who would you vote for......so why ask all of the other questions....it's as ough they are trying to sway your vote during the poll. I no longer answer these questions....I will let my vote do my talking.

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optimist

9:34 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Ohio? He's getting blasted there also. Than inlcudes a recent FOX news poll. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html
John I know you want to believe. Good luck with that. By the way it's the same story in Florida, nevada, and Virginia but just not as bad.

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John

10:30 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Optimist.....watch what happens between then and now......the polls will drastically change. Let me ask you a question as you seem to have all of the facts. If the "pollsters" tell us that Romney was winning Nevada after the RNC, and is now lagging behind (almost an11% turnaround) as it is in many states, who is actually CHANGING their vote. The 'pollsters' tell us that the true independent voter makes up @ 7-9%. Are we to assume that all 9% are now voting for Obama, and throw in 2% of republicans changed their mind? My point is these pollsters are all full of crap. They don't have a clue.....no matter who is leading. This just sells newspapers, magazines and most important airtime.....it's all about the BENJAMIN's my friend, and it always will be when it comes to the media. Don't believe me? Watch how many people are unemployed from media after the elections. It's simply about generating money......every 4 years a dying industry gets a bump.

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Lorbee

6:20 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

if we decide by poll only--will that make us "BI-POLAR?" Laughing at the thread and those who believe polls.

Michael Petersen

8:49 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

2010 was your 5min. of fame. All down hill from there.

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Bob Guzzardi

11:13 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

If Obama wins, national bankruptcy follows. This is clear to everyone except ideologues.

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John

11:15 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Michael, I concur completely....it's all been downhill from there, and based upon these pollsters, it's gonna keep on following the same downhill track....once 51% of this country joins the handout group, it's over. I will do what I can to stay afloat, trying to keep as many of those I can employed, but when these Obamacare additional taxes kick in, I will be forced to grow the unemployed volume.....somehow, in 2016, I don't think we will be blaming Bush anymore...but by then, who will care!

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Lorbee

6:22 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Really? Think there were a few more 'moments of fame' there--don't forget about Scott Walker.

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Lorbee

6:25 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

By the way, I've driven through no less than 5 states in the last two months and I have not seen ONE obama sign on a lawn. Not seeing any signs. People are NOT tipping their hand this time around. WAY too many embarassed over their huge mistake in 2008 and are so disenchanted they will do exactly what someone else on this board wrote, i.e., they will vote for Romney and then say they voted for Obama. LOL Politics as usual.

true_blue

9:14 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Between 1987 and 1995, Bain Capitol made $587 million from five businesses and all
five eventually went bankrupt. In 1992, Bain bought a hanging file
folder company in Indiana called SCM. On July 5, 1994, security guards surrounded the building and told all 258 workers they were fired. They were told they
could reapply for their jobs at lower wages.
Some did.
In 1993, Bain purchased a Kansas City steel mill, GS Industries, and drove it into
bankruptcy. Bain partners did just fine, making $50 million. But more than 700
workers lost their jobs, their health insurance,
their severance pay and some of their pension benefits. Then taxpayers picked up
the tab for the company’s under funded pension plan.
In 1994, Bain led a group of investors to buy Dade International, a medical technology
firm in Miami. They fired close to 2,000 workers and loaded the company
with debt—while taking hefty management fees, of course. Dade went bankrupt
within eight years.
Meet the real Mitt Romney, just think what he’ll do if he’s elected “boss” of the USA.

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Bob Guzzardi

11:22 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Democratically -slanted CNN Tom Foreman Erin Barnett Fact Check “cornerstone claim” of the Democrats and report: There are fewer people working now than when Obama took office- about ½ million private sector jobs and about 1.1 million fewer if government layoffs included.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/kudos-to-cnn-for-fact-checking-the-democrats (video embedded).

This will not be seen in Pennsylvania’s superficial and Democratically slanted, conventional group thinking media.

Amend Wun

9:42 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

So, congressman Gerlach and mr. Kockman's hope those Voting for Obama won't show up on election day because those voters will think the President doesn't need their support since he's ahead in the polls. Isn't that like saying their candidate's only hope of winning is the apathy of the democratic party?

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Carmen Johnson

10:47 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Gov Romney rallied before a cross-section of PA, which does not represent all of PA. Just because you have support, don't get cocky about winning. This goes for both sides.

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Carmen Johnson

10:53 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Also depending on Fox News for information is like listening to the neighborhood gossip queen, or playing a twisted game of Telephone. There are better (and unbiased) sources out there.

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louis kootsares

11:40 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

those polls must have been taken in iran, pakistan and mental wards... every football game or gun show i attend the topic is voting out the worst president this country ever had

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Scott Johnson

11:48 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Guys, can't you see this happens every-time, in 2004, the democrats were complaining polls were oversampling republicans... Any time a candidate gets far back on the polls there is going to be cries of polling irregularities. If you want your candidate to win work harder campaigning and getting out the vote. Kerry ended up out performing the polls but still lost, because his volunteers got worked for it but ultimately he was a flawed candidate. Romney will most likely suffer the same fate.

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Ego_Death

12:09 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

So what are Romneys ideas and what is his plan?

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Bob Guzzardi

12:24 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

I am focusing on Tom Smith for US Senate challenging Bob Casey and here is plan. It is specific without getting into the weeds. http://restore.tomsmithforsenate.com/

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optimist

12:55 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Smith has no chance. Your message would be better received in Arkansas or Mississippi. Your interest in guys like Romney and Smith has more to do with invading Iran on behalf of the right wing Israeli lobby than it does about anything else.

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Bob Guzzardi

1:08 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Optimist Motivating: A little bit of anti-Zionism, which many of us consider to be Jew-hatred, with its implication of dual loyalty, to focus our attention. Obviously Mitt Romney and, certainly, the Bible believing Tom Smith support the Jewish State. Democrats and Obama, not so much.

Bob Guzzardi

12:26 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Here is the video with an overview of Restoring America plan. Tom is a proven, tax making job creator who has met a payroll. http://tomsmithforsenate.com/mediapage

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truth seeker

12:44 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Bob how much money will you be contrinuting to tea party candidates in the East Penn School board race this time around?

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Bob Guzzardi

1:09 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Probably nothing. I have other priorities.

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TP

1:34 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Tony, A MSNBC link? Seriously? What a lovely picture of you! You look truly mesmerized by the dear leader...It obviously effected your thinking as well..Oh FOX has Obama ahead so let's call the election for him...do a little research son. A majority of the polls have over sampled Libs/Dems based on 2008 models. Even pundits say that is not going to happen again. So keep relying on the polls and come election day...BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!

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Tony Campisi

2:48 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

JF - the MSNBC link was story about Christie appearing this morning on ABC's This Week....where he said the polls aren't rigged. Try reading, if you can, before you jump to your foregone conclusions. And don't call me son. At least I have the intellectual honesty and decency to post under my real name instead of hiding behind initials. Stay away from that dynamite when it blows up in your face.

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TP

3:31 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Hey Tony baby..listen up son...The fact that you post your real name shows just how stupid you are! But at least we will be able to put the name with the face..those pinwheels in your eyes as you stand in front of the dopey change podium are mesmerizing...go back to surfing MSNBC.

Ike

1:22 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

ALL OF THE TV , NEWS WORLD IS biased.... DONT YOU REMEMBER THE LAST ELECTION.... THEY ARE ALL UP OBAMAMAS BUTT..... WHY?????? I JUST DONT KNOW..... BUT I CAN GIVE A GREAT GUESS!!!.............
I THOUGHT THAT HE COULD DO A HALFWAY GOOD JOB,,, BUT WAS I SO WROUNG... HE MIGHT JUST BE WHEN ITS ALL OVER THE WORT PREZ WE EVERY HAD... EVEN BADDER THAN CARTER
...... MAKE YOU EVEN WANT BUSH BACK ... OH WOO IS THE USA ,, WE BE IN DEEP,DEEP TROUBLE!

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Jim Knowles

2:31 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

lol forget polls? Forget common sense while you're at it.

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Ike

4:10 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Yes you are so right Jimmy. Obamama and his gang has losted most of the common sense his grandmom gave him.And his gang ,, do they even know what the heck is going on ....As for Mitt the rich ,,,, wo is me,, WE ARE IN DEEP,,DEEP TROUBLE!!... Nobody to vote for... God help the US OF A

Tom Bartman

2:51 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Here's the video the media won't show. Romney wows crowd at packed house at Valley Forge Military Academy... -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j8AKrN0zDs

I can't wait until the debates.

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Maria

2:58 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Me, too. I was there for this. Great!

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Jane Frankland

3:06 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

I'm looking forward to the debates as well, Tom Bartman. I have heard that Mitt Romney is an excellent debater. I certainly hope so. But, will he be debating for the Republicans or the Democratics? Mr. Romney may not be consistent, but he is always quite comically hypocritical. I guess when Wednesday night comes, he will decide whether or not he is a liberal or a conservative. I just love the suspense!

penllynjohn

2:55 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Everyone, except public school teachers. that I know, will vote Romney-Ryan,Tom Smith for Senate and Rooney over Schwartz in the 13th and Meehan in the 8th Congressional District, to avoid dooming our children and grandchildren back to Great Depression existences.
Obama and the Democrats have America in a death spiral of record long unemployment, higher National Debt,falling world rankings in K-12 scores, foreclosures,college loan defaults, even lower marriage rates and household formation.
Obama's watch has seen the raise in abortion numbers by 300,000,much higher food stamp use, illegal Mexicans going home for the jobs we sent there,household average income dropping from $55,000 to $50,000 in 4 years, a dead Ambassador ,secret files in al-Quaeda's hands in burning diplomatic posts,almost $1 trillion of taxpayers money doing nothing in the big 6 banks and up to 30-40 free cell phones given away, over $1 billion of our money, this year, to households in America's poverty zones.
We know the Republicans, led by a proven "fixer of problems" executive like Mitt Romney, can prevent this National suicide.

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optimist

3:04 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Desperate times call for desperate blog posts! Romney and his superpacs have already given up PA. You tea brains should go places where your hatered would be better received like Mississippi and Texas.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/romney-gop-michigan-pennsylvania-pull-out.php

It's not just educators who will not support Romney. Females are tired of the war against women, Americans do not want another ground war in the Middle East, seniors do not want a voucher medicare program, a ton of people think spending cuts should include the military and a huge group do not trust a proven bain job killer who will not release his taxes and disdains 47% of the population.

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Jane Frankland

3:15 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

@optimist: Well said! Perfect!

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TP

3:35 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Hey optimist...after you get done cutting and pasting from the dopey change website how about you actually get caught up on the news not just what you are fed from the Dem talking points. Thanks for helping to prove how misguided the dear leaders followers are. Keep it up! Your perfect!

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Jane Frankland

3:47 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

@optimist: JF just proved you right. (Or, in JF's terms: "You just done proved me 'write.' 'Your' perfect.")

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Ike

4:06 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Yes , what is that cell phone giveaway about . I saw that , did Obamama do that ???Give free cell phones away..... I HOPE NOT!!!!!!!!!

William Collins

3:15 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Romney is a joke. He sounds just as stupid as Sarah Palin.

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TP

3:24 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

WOW how profound Mr. Collins. Do have any more words of wisdom to add to the debate? Sad thing is a moron who votes will count just as much as those that actually have some intelligence.

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Jane Frankland

3:36 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

@JF: I guess that means your vote will count.

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TP

4:09 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

WOW Janey babe your just as profound...please keeping posting and proving my point for the whole word to see!
PS: Didn't the name Jane go out like in the 1950's?

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Jane Frankland

4:15 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

JF: You're (not your) funny. Go back to high school (like).

TP

4:27 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Keep it up Jane..I love it! The fact I keep suckering you in has us all laughing!

Like....at you!

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Morgan King

4:38 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Not really - just makes you look a troll, another attention-seeking bully to be ignored.

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TP

5:26 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Morgan King..Seriously? Are you royalty? Does king Obama pay you homage? I knew a horse named Morgan.

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Lorbee

5:32 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Jane Frankland has consumed so much Kool Aid her brain is warped. She needs a frontal lobotomy--or something. Ignore the mental case she most definitely is.

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patrick

10:32 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

JF, That's must be the reason why people with undergrad, grad and doctorate college degrees vote, in higher percentages, DEMOCRAT. Now, let's look at the Republican demographics, white men without a degree and seniors over 71. Wow. 2112-Obama. Maybe we should start getting Hillary prepared for 2116.
Vote for the fiscally responsible party-DEMS

Jane Frankland

5:09 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

See you on November 6th, JF. Unless, of course, your mommy won't let you cross the street.

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TP

5:23 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

You won't me at the polls..I try to stay out of lower class neighborhoods.

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Jane Frankland

5:31 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

If that's the case, JF, then you must get a better education, as well as some tact and humility. A kindergarten degree won't meet the standards of the upper class neighborhoods.

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TP

5:42 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

I beg you "Jane"...please stop..you continue to make yourself look foolish with your "I know you are but what I am" responses...am I not humble because I expose you as fool for looking back at the last 4 years and thinking this dolt in the White House has done nothing for this country? I think not sweetheart! Oh darn on second thought keep it coming so I expose you more!

Lower Saucon Brother

5:16 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

I am a registered republican who voted for Mc Cain. But after 4 years of the gop blocking any and everything the administration tried to do... basicly saying we don't care how bad things get so we can be in power again, I won't be voting for The champion of the 1%.

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TP

5:29 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

LSB..what about the first 2 years when Obama had the House and the Senate? He could have done anything he wanted. Oh but you conveniently don't mention that. I'm sure you will vote for whoever keeps your government benefits coming.

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Lorbee

5:34 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Your choice, and we all have to lose for it. How you can possibly indulge this horrid excuse for a leader 4 more years defies belief and is beyond all comprehension.

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Jane Frankland

5:52 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

President Obama never "had" the House and the Senate. The Republican obstructionists saw to that (via an unprecedented amount of filibusters). Consult a legitimate news source, JF. I must say, JF, that your comments betray you as quite the snob. Don't fret, however, Jesus did say something like "whatsoever you do to the least of My people, that you do unto Me."

Jane Frankland

6:29 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

By the way, JF, are you too cowardly to use your real name?

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Jane Frankland

6:33 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Is "Lorbee" a surname? Do you know what a surname is? Can you identify yourself? Or, are you just as cowardly as JF?

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Curmudgeon

6:34 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Jane, the first two years Obama had 60 Senators, filibusterproof!! Please stop rewriting history. He wasted all that with idiots Pelosi and Reid who had to give away the house to pass ACA (Obamacare). What a wast of an opportunity. This is when we found out President Obama leads from behind. As much as I Hate his policies, he is no Lyndon Johnson, (a former Senator then President) who passed all of Kennedy's programs with a similar type Congress. If he were a horse trader, he'd be the jackass.

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ted.dobracki

7:50 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

You are correct. Like him or not, LBJ was the most effective president in getting his legislation passed. Kennedy was a wuss - showing no leadership and failing to pass the CIvil Rights and Voting Rights Acts. Obama is more like Kennedy than Johnson, leaving Congress to do whatever they want to and that is not a complement. He let Pelosi and Reid run wild and cutoff the Republicans at the knees with his early statements like "we won". Romney on the other hand, whether you like him or not, has proven that he can work closely accross the aisle in MA, since his legislature was more than 75% Democrats, and they were able to pass budgets. Ditto for Christie in NJ - you might not like what he has done, but he had to get everything substanitive that he did through a Democrat majority legislature.

Jane Frankland

6:40 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Curmudgeon. Look at the facts (I mean those things proven to be true.) Review recent history. Then, please tell me when President Obama had 60 participating senators.

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TP

7:34 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Jane...really...Jane..OMG that's funny! Wasn't Beaver Cleaver's mother named Jane?

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Jane Frankland

7:39 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Really, JF, Beaver Cleaver's mother's name was June, not Jane. You can't even get your TV trivia right.

Lorbee

6:42 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Hey Jane take a break from being the insufferable bore school marm and worrying about grammar and whose names are real or fictitious. But you have remarkable copy and paste skills! Kudos!

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Curmudgeon

6:49 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

@Jane, January 20, 2009 you moron.

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Jane Frankland

7:03 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Lorbee, let's talk again 11/6/12, or very early morning 11/7/12.
Curmudgeon. No need for name-calling. Again, review recent history. Then, please tell me when President Obama had 60 PARTICIPATING senators.

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TP

7:31 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Jane...you are sooooooooooooooo stupid! I should not even clue you in but I will just to show what a moron you are. Do you think in an age of identity theft it is smart to use your real name on the internet? Stay with me dummy Obama supporter. Your patch profile states that you are from Springfield PA. Go to zabasearch.com and your address and phone number is available. Do you have ANY idea what people can do with that information alone? No, you don't because you are a complete idiot. I doubt I will hear back from you and if you are smart it will not be under your real name!

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Jane Frankland

7:36 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Curmudgeon. President Obama had no Senate majority (60 senators) during his first two terms, and definitely not on 1/20/09, when he only had 58 senators. Prove me wrong.

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TP

7:42 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Jane...Just as I thought...still using your real name...as your pull the lever for your dear leader you might think about taking your full name off the internet you idiot. Thanks for proving anyone that supports Obama is a complete idiot!

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Scott Zwingli

9:29 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

JF - You, my friend, are the stupid one. Do you realize how easy it is with a single browser plugin to obtain your IP address? And do you know how easy it is to trace that back to you?

Stop trying to tell yourself you're somehow smart for using an alias. You're just an ignorant coward.

Jim L

7:06 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Oh well. I was going to say something but I think it's all been said.....

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Yikes!

7:07 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

I will never vote for Romney/Ryan. Romney has shown by his remarks on Libya that he wants more war. Do you all forget that, or do you think that more involvement will somehow benefit our economy? What good does it do to keep skirting around the real issue of the war/occupation in the Middle East (which is in violation of our own Constitution) by talking about taxes and government programs? None of those things matter when we are spending billions a day on war. Savings and redistribution will be immediate by just getting our guys off foreign soil where they are hated and unwelcome. At least Obama has taken steps in the right direction in the most important issue of all. Wake up.

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Curmudgeon

7:16 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

GMAB Jane with your parsing. Feels like Bill Clinton again with the definition of is, is.
There were 60 Senators who were included the Democrat caucus on 1/20/09.

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TP

7:46 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Curmudgeaon..forgive "Jane" and her parsing..she's too busy posting all her personal information on the internet so people can steal her identity.

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Tony Campisi

7:48 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Once again the right wing thinks it is entitled to its own facts. There were not 60 members of the Democratic Caucus in the US Senate on January 20, 2009. There were 55 Democratic Senators and 2 Independents who caucused with them, bringing the caucus to 57. There were 41 Republicans. There were 2 vacancies in the Senate, including the disputed Minnesota race that was not settled in Democrat Al Franken's favor until June, 2009. Hillary Clinton's seat was filled on January 26 bringing the Democratic caucus to 58. Arlen Specter switched parties on April 29, 2009 and brought the number to 59 and Franken made 60 until the death of Senator Kennedy in August, 2009. From the time his replacement took office in September, until Scott Brown was sworn in in Feb, 2010, Democrats had 60 seats. Democrats had a filibuster proof majority for about 6 months total during the time they controlled the Senate in 2009-2010. Get your facts straight before you accuse others of being morons, Curmudgeon.

Curmudgeon

7:19 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

OMG, US loses Ryder Cup after giving up insurmountable lead. Shades of things to come!!!

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Jane Frankland

7:49 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Thank you, JF and Curmudgeon. I believe I have enough for my class tomorrow. I'm sure your comments will elicit quite a few chuckles.

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TP

7:59 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Oh your a teacher..that explains it. A teachers union goon! First lesson of the day should be don't put your personal information on the internet..To use your own words ....God Bless your students

Lorbee

8:11 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

The brainiac has exposed that she lives on "N" Drive in Springfield (I'll be polite and not put the address in) and the whole world can even learn what she paid for her house. How smooth. Oh, I see she is a teacher. She will be sure to bang into their heads the use of 'your' as opposed to 'you're', no doubt. Really great knowing that these are the educators of our children.

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Curmudgeon

8:15 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Thanks Tony for the facts, so he had 6 months to do what he wanted. The two independents caucused with the Dems, didn't they. Do you remeber he couldn't get his own party to go along with ACA without payoffs. I remember the promise of transparency, but all the deals were done behind closed doors. Health care reform could have been done without 2500 (or is it 2600 or 2700) pages, dozens of new Federal departments and bureaucrats, and the huge unfunded costs we will incur. Please don't tell me about the Rx plan that Bush and Senator Kennedy put together after the 2000 election, that was in my opinion and stupid reach out by Bush to work with the Dems. What happens, it gets thrown up in his face by the Dems. Clinton worked with a Republican House, Obama, chose not to. I believe he made a political decision the last two years to help with the gridlock. It's not all the R's fault.

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Yikes!

8:17 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Thank you, Tony Campisi for clearing that up, I am with you and Jane. These guys on here are poster children for arrogant and disrespectful right-wingers. Glad you didn't let them run you off of Patch Comments. Bravo!

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TP

8:27 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Since your with Campisi and Jane why don't you provide all your personal information over the internet...Fools.

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Lorbee

8:30 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Really, Yikes? Read what you ever so polite and brilliant co-hort Jane-Put-All-My-Personal-Information-On-The-Internet writes very early in the day:
"The Republican party always seems to attract those with a lesser intellect and those who dispute the facts. The conservative base primarily consists of the uneducated, white, Southern man." So, who is arrogant and disrespectful? She has not intelligently tried to make a point without insulting whomever she addresses--but you probably missed those, though. Typical behavior of the left--they will continue to worship at the altar of obama, and see what they want to see. Go and see the movie 2016 and for once try to keep an open mind, but I'm sure you won't do that, but instead, from the periphery, blast Dinesh D'Souza and call the movie "propaganda." What a hypocritical, pompous, condescending bunch of bleeding hearts you really and truly are. There is nothing anyone can say to change your mind, so go forth and cast that obama ballot in November. God help us that our fate is in the hands of the likes of some of you.

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Tony Campisi

9:10 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

When they have nothing left, they resort to silly name calling. And they truly have nothing left. For four years its been name calling and foot stomping and screaming like children. On Nov 6th the Tea Party children can start screaming and name calling for another 4 year term.

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TP

9:18 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Hey Campisi...listen up son..you prove how stupid you are by posting your personal information on the internet...I am so mesmerized by the pinwheels in your eyes in front of the dopey/change podium...you look like an Obamabot!

Maria

9:15 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Liberals are so "open-minded" and fair and smart.
Not.

We may survive this four-year term of Obama's, but can America survive its "liberal" mental disorder?

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Yikes!

9:45 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

The Right wingers are a dying breed. The world has evolved past their archaic notions. The Republican party today is a mess, the sane Repubs have no voice because it is drowned out by the redneck fringe that has taken over. The younger generation seems to embrace the sound ideas of the Libertarians....

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Bigfootnells

10:40 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Thanks Tony Campisi. I was going to post the Senate count myself. Except for When Franken was sworn in on July 7th the still did not have the 60 votes necessary to stop a fillibuster. Both Senator Robert Byrd's and Sennator Kennedy's seat were vacant in that they were ill and unable to vote. Byrd was in the hospital and Kennedy was deathly ill at his home and later died on August 25th. Byrd returned to his seat on July 21. But the Dems still only had the 57 Dems and 2 independent votes 59 total. With Kennedy's seat being vacant until a month after he died when on September 24 Robert G Kirk was sworn in as his replacement. And lasted until February 4 when Scott Brown was sworn in. Which gives them 94 days with the 60 votes needed to be fillibuster proof. And of those 94 days the House was only in session for 54 days and the Senate for 67 So it really wasn't even as good as that

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Bigfootnells

10:54 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

The fact that Obama did not have the 60 vote fillibuster proof majority for both the stimulus and the healthcare votes is the reason he had to compromise with the far right. Which is why at the far rights insistance. Obama had to add the individual mandate to the healthcare bill. Which when you break down the individual parts of the health care bill is the only thing that is not popular in the bill. He also had to add tax breaks for large corporations onto the stimulus. So that meant that there was less money to target the things that actually made the stimulus a success.

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Tony Campisi

11:17 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

The individual mandate was also a conservative idea that came from the Heritage Foundation. That probably drives the right wing absolutely crazy (well...crazier). The right wing abandoned the idea when Obama decided he liked it because they are incapable of across-the-aisle compromises.

Bruce Davis

2:01 am on Monday, October 1, 2012

Romney wins when pigs and the 47% all fly at the same time!

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Michael K. Corenzwit

10:43 am on Monday, October 1, 2012

The Republican Party has abandoned the majority of Americans. They support the rich and greedy and are abetted by the stupid. Obama will win because he is a vastly superior candidate.

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WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.

10:48 am on Monday, October 1, 2012

Romney wins because of voter suppression tactics by Republican legislators...Did someone post this one yet?..There are 130-some posts here already it's hard to keep up...Just to make sure everyone is aware of it...If Obama is not a legitimate president because he wasn't born in the US, then I say Romney would be an illegal one too if he won by cheating.

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Japan

8:38 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

at age 75 arent you slotted for Alzheimer status soon?

Maria

11:32 am on Monday, October 1, 2012

How is voter ID cheating? There is so much fraud in large cities like Philadelphia by Democrats, how does showing an ID, issued for free by the state if you don't have one, cheating?
If Romney wins, it's because the independents came to their senses and voted this failed president out!

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11:36 am on Monday, October 1, 2012

If there is in fact so much voter fraud in Philly, why can't anyone give a single example of it? Seriously, show me one example where someone voted pretending to be someone else. Here is a good example of actual fraud and it has nothing to do with IDs:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/ondeadline/2012/09/28/florida-voter-registration-fraud-republican/1601809/

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ted.dobracki

12:15 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

How soon that we forget the installation of Bruce Marks into the PA Senate by a Federal Court in 1993, overturning the fraudulent election of William Stinson!

That case even reached the Supreme Court of the US, where it was affirmed. The case was based on massive voter fraud and collusion by the Board of Elections.

Current photo IDs won't stop all voter fraud, but it would no doubt help stop much of it. There certainly has to be additional provisions to prevent all voter fraud. No system will ever be perfect, but current (or recently expired) ID can help stop many forms of voting fraud.

Two more recent instances of voter fraud by elected officials:

1) School board member votes in wrong town: http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2012/09/elizabeth_board_of_education_m.html

2) Congressional candidate votes in two states: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-wendy-rosen-withdraws-20120910,0,3764352.story

As I said, photo ID's won't stop ALL voting fraud, but it will go a long way in reducing it.

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WILFREDO G. SALCEDO, Sr.

8:27 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Anyone with half a brain could see that voter photo ID law invoked by the Romney camp (only States with Republican legislature) is intended to suppress the potential Obama voters...Other tactics are to shred Democrats' registration forms in Florida, make sure student voters in Ohio write down their dorm room number, attempted cancellation of early voting also in Ohio...God help us...Hopefully, today the PA High Court sees the light and throws this statute out.

Maria

11:36 am on Monday, October 1, 2012

The Socailist no longer ru a a candatem becasue the Dems have dadopted thierplatfrom.
Which party is EXTREME?
Obama -- the most liberal Senator ever.
Endorsed INFANTICIDE.
Embraces brutal Islamic sharia law.
Apologizes for this great nation to dictators!
Lying about our dead ambassador.
Hiding the facts about Fast and Furious.
Cozying up with Putin!
Sealed records!
Lying about being a a Christian.
Lying about the Obamcare Tax -- a government takeover.

Are you all out of your minds?

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Marc L.

8:06 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Is that all of the stuff they teach the staff of St. Robert Bellarmine's Mary, or are those beliefs your own?

http://saintrobertwarrington.org/community/staff/

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Tom Bartman

9:38 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Mary - email me. You gave me a great idea.

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Earnest

10:50 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Good grief Mary, why don't you just admit that you are a hater. A list of false (opinions or beliefs) does not make them true. Where are your facts to back up any of those bizarre things on your list.

Lorbee

12:44 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Mary-they are either indeed our of their minds or simply like that line of three monkeys who hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil-when evil is abounding. Don't forget about 8+ % unemployment and maybe they just can't get enough of paying out the nose at the gas pump, which by the way the price has doubled since obama took office. If all of what you say and I say isn't enough, then enough preaching to the choir. The facts speak for themselves and if obama is re-elected, then figure out if you even want to stay in this miserable mire or try to find some independent island somewhere, however the ripple effect of what obama has done to our country has touched just about every corner of the globe--that is because we USED to be looked up to as a super power and the dilution of the power has reached epidemic proportions--there will really be nowhere to idea, if given another 4 years of this socialist dictator. (Who by the way never has had an original thought himself, but relies solely on that witch, Valerie Jarrett, his "fellow comrade in socialism.")

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12:54 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Do you fools even understand the difference between Communism and Socialism? If you are going to accuse Obama of being "socialist", at least take the time to learn what the term means, especially compared to Communism.

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careless fills

1:51 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

@lorbee & richard: Instead of a socialist or communist, Obama might be best considered to be a fascist or corporatist. He is as much a tool of the banks as any of his predecessors.

Crestor Januvia

1:29 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Liberals are like maggots.... Feeding on whats left of the U.S. carcass. The laziest, most stupid people in the country are all demomaggots. Throw in a bunch of union wankers, or people raised by union wankers, and you have damn near 50% demomaggots. The end is near... but they will be the first to suffer. Can't wait for all the state pension programs to go bankrupt. That is going to be FUN !!!

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Lorbee

1:59 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Careless fills: A "tool" is about the best description of obama I've ever seen.

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Agnes

5:12 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Mary, your opinions are scary. Read some of the fact check websites (snopes, factcheck, politifact),wake up, and get a life. Right wing political rhetoric is not real - its entertainers making big bucks. Even Rush said so. What are you going to in November when you learn Obama won?

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Mary B

7:47 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Mary, give it a rest and go launder you big white suit. You know, the one with the pointy head piece that covers your face with the eyes cut out.

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Marc L.

8:02 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

The people who believe in the right wing rhetoric that gets spewed on the radio and on Fox "News" are like the kids who still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy into their teens. Or the ones who think that there are monsters in their closets & under their beds. At some point you expect them to realize all of their beliefs & fears are based on fiction, but when they don't get it you start to question whether they are mentally developed or mature.

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Yikes!

9:01 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Right Agnes, entertainers in a circus Sideshow.

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Lorbee

9:49 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Mary only stated the truth. As they say, "the truth hurts" and you will find the cream will rise to the top in November, and we will be saying "President Romney." Thank you, Lord, I know YOU will make it happen.

Lorbee

8:04 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

co2 while Mary does her laundry, why don't you make that appointment to get fitted for all your brown shirts that will be filling your closet, if bammy wins.

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Japan

8:35 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

2008: Forget Polls, McCain Backers Say, 'He'll Win'

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Yikes!

8:51 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

One thing is clear throughout this happy little exchange - literally ALL of the nasty, cheap-shot comments on here are from the Romney supporters. The others, whether for Obama or not, have a whole lot more CLASS and seem to stick to the issues like real, thinking humans.
What does that say about Romney and his followers??
VOTE good people - and don't let these clowns win this election and destroy our USA.

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Lorbee

9:41 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Here is a copy/paste from one of your liberal classy obama supporters, Yikes. You are hypocritical in saying that Romney supporters resort to cheap shot comments and finish YOURS by saying "these clowns." Not only a cheap shot, but not very intelligent to do that. Here is that classy comment from yesterday, insulting and arrogant, suggesting that I may not know what a "surname" is:

Jane Frankland
6:33 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012

Is "Lorbee" a surname? Do you know what a surname is? Can you identify yourself? Or, are you just as cowardly as JF?

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Yikes!

9:54 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Thanks Lorbee - if that comment you cited above is the worst you could find in this ocean of rudeness, then my point is proven. That is nothing compared to you referring to OUR US PRESIDENT as "bammy".
Amazing.

Mohandus Frieri

9:55 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Romney and his supporters need credibility by actually proposing ideas that make sense. They are so timid to do so because they are idealogues and don't feel they need to justify their trickle down economics. For them it is a given that when you eliminate taxes on the wealthy and levy onerous taxes on workers, they benefit from the jobs the wealth will create.

Well recent history tells us this doesn't work. Workers' wages have been flat since 1980 when Reagan took office. The only folks who made money is the wealthy. Under Clinton, we taxed the wealty, we paid down the deficit, nearly eliminated it and were on a clear track to be a debt free country.

Then Bush took office. He gave tax breaks to the wealthy, stopped enforcing financial regulations, started two wars, and started a Medicare prescription benefit, funding nothing and driving up the deficit to the point the world was economic collpase by the end of 2008;

Romney wants too repeat this and the mindless seem to be saying, Yes, let's do it again and then blame it on Obama. I suggest those people like Senate Minority Leader Kentucky Slim, and House leader Crybaby Boner are cowards and weaklings. They stated their mission as defeating Obama which contradicts their constitutional responsibility.

So if you can live with yourselves, you deserve to be defeated.

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Carmen Cee

10:33 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Not much of a political person.As a single mother,i am poor.As much as money means to me,my kids mean so much more.Like I said not so political,all my time is spent with my children.As I watch TV with my children,I get so upset.Videos,half naked women,girls kissing girls,people being glorified for fighting and disgusting behavior.I predict they will be allowing pornography in a few years if another liberal president is elected.I remember in the 80's George Bush banned a rap group called The Two Live Crew.My ideal president would be a conservative democrat,someone like Joe lieberman,but thats not going to happen.Still confused who I am voting for,my financial situation would say Obama.My heart who is with The Good Lord,says Mitt Romney.Since God is above everything,I will with Romney.

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Yikes!

11:10 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

Not sure you want to base your vote on God through Mitt Romney, unless you are a Mormon too. Romney is at present, a high priest in the Church of Mormon. Mormons believe that founder Joseph Smith is higher than Jesus Christ. Check it out...the man has taken vows.

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Morgan King

1:43 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

God has voiced no discernible opinion on the people running for office in America, and presuming to know what He might think about them if He did is a pretty big guess, and an awfully slippery slope.

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11:06 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

It's clear as day "Mary" is a DUDE pretending to be a woman online. I have noticed this seems to be a theme for many right wingers. The funniest part is Bartmen is asking for HIS e-mail trying to hook up. LOL!

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GoIden Cockroach

6:58 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

I have noticed that Tommy Fartman has also been talking about third graders. Shame on you Fartman. Love the comment that Mary is KKK. That sums up the right-wing, racist & pervs.

Nancy Simmons

11:32 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012

When you ask for ideas on how to improve things I have to laugh. Obama had his turn and didn't solve anything....he had no ideas. When Obama took office he continued the tax breaks, continued with the war (that the Dem.s voted for) where more deaths occurred then the previous 8 yrs, funding solar projects that went belly-up and driving the deficit to record levels, bailed out GM who is now considering bankruptcy...again,divided the country, invited and monetarily backed countries and leaders that wish us harm, bypassed the Constitution, shoved healthcare down our throats,etc., etc., etc Mary is correct... and all this from the golf course.
Try other venues for news. The internet is waiting.

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Sharpie

6:20 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Just because some of us can't discern God's opinion on the people doesn't mean there isn't any, or that none of us can discern it. BTW, God is not exclusively a he. Figure it out. Nobody is guessing nothing that is paying a lot of attention. But, it does require paying attention to what truly matters.

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GoIden Cockroach

7:01 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Wha wha what???? Quit sniffing your Sharpie, you make zero sense.

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Morgan King

12:29 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

Sharpie - I was going to go with 'It' but that seemed even less appropriate. Regardless, if you think that you could possibly know what an eternal omniscient cosmic being feels about something, even if you're trying to decipher it from a text thousands of years and translations old, you are deluding yourself.

Yikes!

1:17 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

AMEN Morgan King. You are right on!!!

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Marc L.

2:46 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012

The government is against them. The unions are against them. The liberal media is against them. The pollsters are against them. Is there anyone that the the right-wing conspiracy lovers DON'T think is against them?

Colter95

12:11 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012

Yes, Marc. A majority of the PA voters, who vote on facts, not ideology.
I saw Obama yesterday claiming the new job numbers are proof that his policies are working and that we are in an economic recovery. Fact is, that is not the truth, or even close to the truth. First, the unemployment rate ticked up to 7.9% and the year-to-date monthly average of 157,000 payroll jobs is barely enough to keep up with population growth -- much less make up for the 8 million jobs lost during the Great Recession. Second, the so-called real unemployment rate (U6) remains elevated at 14.6%, albeit down from 14.7% the prior month. Similarly, the labor participation rate is at 63.8%, up from its multi-decade low but still incredibly weak.
Third, average hourly earnings fell a penny in October and average hours worked fell to 34.4 from 34.5 in September. Stagnant wages means "we're not generating income," Reinhart says. "That's a problem in terms of the durability of an economic expansion, which is usually fueled by consumption. To get consumption you've got to generate income." Also, just look at your checkbook. We are paying a lot more for everything now than we did in 2008. The price of gas has doubled. At the same time, wages have gone down, and that's if you're lucky to have a job.
In 2008, 25 banks went out of business. In 2012, 48 banks have gone out of business. Almost double the amount. Does that sound like recovery to you? Don't believe the Obama lies!! Romney/Ryan 2012

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