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East Penn to Vote on Summer Reading List ‘Porn’ Tonight

A motion to remove two books from the Emmaus High School optional summer reading list is one of four motions up for decision at tonight’s meeting of the East Penn Board of School Directors.

 

The East Penn Board of School Directors is expected to vote tonight on a motion proposed by School Director Julian Stolz at the board’s Sept. 10 meeting that could remove two books from the Emmaus High School optional summer reading list.

The decision before the board, if approved, would eliminate Tom Wolfe’s “The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test,” which is on the 10th grade list, and “Prep,” a 9th-grade selection written by Curtis Sittenfeld. Stolz’s motion was prompted by a parent who came before the board at the Sept. 10 meeting to share her concerns about what she described as the pornographic nature of the books.

To catch up on the Patch coverage of the "book ban" motion before tonight's meeting, including what your friends and neighbors have been saying, check out the following stories:

The other three measures before the board tonight, all unfinished business from the Sept. 10 meeting, are:

Document Preparation, Proposed by School Director Lynn Donches: All documents prepared for the East Penn School Board should include identifying information, such as date created, office in which created, page number, total number of pages, as well as source data.

Bill List, Proposed by Donches: The full budget code, according to the “Manual of Accounting and Financial Reporting for PA Public Schools Chart of Accounts,” should be included for each check number on each fund accounting check summary.

Superindendent’s Update to the Board, Proposed by Stolz: Superintendent Thomas L. Seidenberger’s update to the board should be posted on the district website.

The East Penn Board of School Directors meets tonight at 7:30 in the District Administrative Office.

Related Topics: Banned Books, East Penn Board of School Directors, East Penn School District, Prep, The Electrict Kool-Aid Acid Test, and porn

optimist

6:45 am on Monday, September 24, 2012

The motions by Stolz and Donches have nothing to do with education. This is all about the next election cycle. Joe Hilliard has probably picked his next slate of CEPTA candidates and signed off on a new strategy: create as many wedge issues as possible to impress voters.

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careless fills

8:02 am on Monday, September 24, 2012

RIGHT!! This has nothing to do with education: "A motion to remove two books from the Emmaus High School optional summer reading list"

Giovanni Landi

9:37 am on Monday, September 24, 2012

Why is the word "optional" being used to describe the summer reading list? The word optional doesn't appear anywhere on the reading lists. Words like "students MUST read two books FROM the list" and "an in-class, one hundred-point, five-paragraph essay." actually appear in the instructions, not "optional". Summer reading is mandatory in order to receive a grade.

Patch is doing this issue and the public a disservice by constantly reporting the facts incorrectly on this story. If you are going to report news, please be accurate. If you going to give your opinion and not report the news then please state that this is an editorial and not a collection of facts.

Check for yourself.
http://www.eastpenn.k12.pa.us/ehs/Academics/_Departments/English.html

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ron

2:21 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Giovanni just use commen sense, they mean its optional if you want to read one of the books in question. You can read any two books on the list nobody is being forced to read these books. Although with all this plubicity im sure these books will become quite popular. I think the only thing that might be misleading is calling these books porn.

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Giovanni Landi

2:55 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

I am using common sense Ron. If someone says the "optional summer reading list" it sounds like the list or the summer reading is optional. Most people are surprised when they learn that the reading is mandatory and the children must chose books from the list.

atthebeach

2:31 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Why do you keep referring to "porn" in your headlines? These books are not "porn". I know that people have labelled these as such, however, if the interest of responsible journalism I feel it is misleading and inappropriate.

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Giovanni Landi

3:01 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

atthebeach – if you feel the passages are not porn, then why not type them in so we can all read them and judge for ourselves? In all the articles about this subject I have yet to see one reporter post the material in question.

Abel Anderson

3:46 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

How can you extract a few passages from a literary work, read them without any context, and make decision based on just those passages if the book is pornographic?

That's like taking the penis off the statue of Michaelangelo's Renaissance masterpiece "David", then running that stone phallus into a crowded room and shouting: "Ahh, look, a stone penis. It's porn!!"

You have to judge those passages within the context of the work as a whole, as a piece of contemporary literature.

Prep has received numerous awards and prizes. It's value and merits have been championed by critical reviewers from the Washington Post, the New Yorker, and numerous other publications. Prep has been compared to J.D. Salinger's "A Catcher in the Rye" for its insightful and courageous examination of teen angst, social pressures and identity issues.

The primary function of pornography is to arouse the reader. Is that the primary function of this work?

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optimist

3:59 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Abel what you need to understand is the context. A big political arousal is taking place. A group of people who want to take control of the school board are driving for wedge issues. Donches and Stolz are working with a well organized group of individuals who want to control that board. That is it and that is all. This is not about pornograpghy.

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Giovanni Landi

4:08 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

I make the same offer to you Abel. If you feel the passages are fine, then post them below.

A movie, no matter how good it is will have its rating changed from PG to X if it portrayed the passage from Prep as descriptive as it is written. When you read your brain imagines the words, much like creating a movie in your mind. If a child can't go to the movies to watch it then why is it ok to graphically described to them?

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Abel Anderson

10:46 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Hey Gio, having been convinced that reading Prep is the same as watching a porn film by your impossibly accurate dissection of how my thought process works

(reading makes pictures in my head ergo I am making my own porn movies in my head when I read the naughty words),

I am convinced we could do more to find out what other types of "thought movies" kids might be making in their heads without appropriate licensing or oversight.

I am also deeply troubled by your own solicitation of members of this forum to post porn laden passages from Prep on this site. Since many minors have access to this site, and could thereby view this porn, I have to ask you to please, sir, stop begging people to post porn.

They have many other sites for that. Patch, despite its ironic use as a slang reference to female genitalia, is not a site where we encourage our neighbors to post porn material. However, I can understand how the "patch" term misled you to believe this might be just the perfect "spot" for soliciting those services.

Abel Anderson

4:07 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

I'm going to go ahead and answer that for you: the primary function of this book is not to arouse the reader. Okay, so it's not porn. Moral compass still intact.

So, then we ask: Could the material be considered offensive to minors? Well, does it meet the criteria for "variable obscenity"? To answer that, we can apply the standards set forth in the Millerized-Ginsburg Test (wow, someone actually went down this road before, who knew):

http://www.protectkids.com/dangers/pornlegaldefinitions.htm

While parts of the book may be offensive, especially when taken out of context, we can safely conclude that the work is a widely recognized piece of contemporary American literature. Hmm. Literature. Is that like, art-stuff? Yup, that's right. It's art-stuff.

Because it's art you might not get it. But that's okay because maybe somebody else may if you just give them a chance. Moral compass still intact.

And while you're busy deciding for the rest of us what we should consider reading, you might want to reflect on the fact that more than 40% of high school students ages 15--19 are having sex. I might wonder which is more shocking--reading about a sex act, or actually performing it?

Moral compass, now what do I do?

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Giovanni Landi

4:29 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

If you feel like reading the book then read it, nobody is stopping you. I honestly don’t care what you read. If the book was so fantastic then why did you need controversy to bring it to your attention? Can you only read something if it's the subject of debate? Do you need someone to tell you what to read?

Was the Summer Reading List suggested reading for you or for the children of East Penn?

How many 13 year olds are having sex? That’s how old some children are the summer before 9th grade. By your logic, since a minority of kids age 15-19 are having sex (I wonder what the percentage change from 15-19 actually is since 18 and 19 year olds are adults) we should expose the majority of kids to graphic sexual content. Just for the record, what's the minimum percentage of children that need to demonstrate inappropriate behavior for you to expose other children to it?

Abel Anderson

4:18 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Here are some really wonderful non-literary resources for learning about these acts. You may find them at home on your coffee table or at your doctor's office's waiting room. None of these magazines has an X-rating:

From Cosmopolitan:
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/tips-moves/how-to-give-a-blow-job

From Redbook Magazine:
http://www.redbookmag.com/love-sex/advice/oral-sex-tips

From Glamour Magazine:
http://www.glamour.com/sex-love-life/blogs/smitten/2011/08/how-to-give-him-the-best-blow.html

While any of these coffee-table magazines would certainly provide more than adequate insight, I'm sure kids would rather plow through a 400 page novel to locate this incendiary how-to guide.

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Giovanni Landi

4:25 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Are any of those on the 9th grade Summer Reading List? Did the school district recommend them for reading for 13 year olds? I think that's the subject we are discussing here.

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Abel Anderson

4:41 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

I make a motion we add Glamour, Redbook and Cosmo to the "optional" summer reading program. Let's face it, we don't have time to read a 400 page work of American literature before we get to the really good stuff.

We'll also need to nominate several individuals to help Giovanni get the book Prep out of his ass... it's way up there.

Good luck, Mr. Landi, in your noble efforts to eviscerate (look that one up) the annals (look that one up too) of contemporary American Literature.

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Giovanni Landi

5:46 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Excellent debating skill Abel, I bet you win over a lot of people with your eloquence. It appears that some people think using big words and insults is an appropriate way to discuss issues. Maybe you should ask the board if you can volunteer to help coach the high school debate team. While you’re asking them about the debate team, ask them to add your selections to the summer reading list if you feel they are literary works of genius like you profess Prep is.
Thank you for enlightening me about the districts “optional summer reading list” being included in the annals of contemporary American Literature.
Here’s something for you to look up – age appropriateness.

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Abel Anderson

10:11 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

Gio, I've had a moment of clarity or perhaps I've just been moved by the undeniable brilliance of your circular logic (if I can't post the passage on Patch, it's porn).

But, I'm afraid just taking Prep off the reading list is only the beginning. Those articles in Cosmo, Redbook, and Glamour have got to go. Those magazines need to be removed from school libraries. Imagine the horror a child will face if, while sampling perfume, he or she comes across one of those lascivious articles on how to give a perfect BJ. Nor can students be permitted to carry such harmful smut within the halls of Emmaus academia.

I also found this tawdry bit of slime from Men's Health:

http://www.menshealth.com/sex-position-playbook/choose-position?page=2

Called "The Spork," this position could easily be confused with a frequently used cafeteria utensil by the same name--thereby resulting in who knows how many injuries to those parts of your body that we don't call by name [the "wee-wee" area].

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Abel Anderson

10:13 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

And then I discovered this salacious nugget of lustful depravity:

http://www.menshealth.com/sex-position-playbook/choose-position?page=5

This position is called "H2Ohh, Yeahhh..." Disgusting filth!
What if the kids attempt this one in the pool at EHS? Surely they will be lured into such behavior by the rampant availability of this "how-to" trash!

By allowing these materials in our libraries, our lockers or our children's backpacks, we not only condone these actions, we encourage them.

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careless fills

5:27 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

why does Abel Abderson post all of these "pornographic" references here? people are tryiong to have a serious discussion

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Abel Anderson

9:08 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

I'm serious. Why go after Prep, when we have a chance to get the real sources of lewd content (Cosmo, Redbook, Glamour, and Men's Health) away from our kids?

Careless, you might not realize you can buy those magazines over the counter right at CVS in Emmaus. Horrible! The kids can brings those magazines to school and share this smut with their friends. Beastly! And these "magazines" could even be in our school libraries.

We need to purge our school's of this filth before kids see it. Prep, yeah, we'll get to that too, but what about all this other stuff? It's porn too, right?

Men's Health is published by Rodale which is right here in town. Should we boycott? Maybe organize a "Night without Men's Health Porn" protest?

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careless fills

9:41 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Are you really suggesting to add those periodicals to the EHS library?

Or better yet, are they there already? If not, why not? Think about it.

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Abel Anderson

9:50 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Careless, we need to find out if these periodicals are in the library. How could we have overlooked this smut?

We also need to find out if kids are permitted to read this smut in school, during free time or carry it with them. It's obviously porn and it explains how to perform sex acts without the clever guise of literature.

Cosmo, Redbook, Glamour, and Men's Health need to be removed from EHS because they detail sex acts that kids will surely want to emulate and experiment with, possibly on school grounds.

Can you make this motion at the next school board meeting?

ron

5:42 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012

I assume there are more then two books on the list ,so if you dont want to read the two in question or dont want your children to read them just pick two others, Its that simple. Life is so simple untill idiots make it complicated.

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